Is it cool that it is portable? light? What would you use it for?
For me I never had a opportunity to say "Hey you know what would be great right now? A super small printer that can print not large objects" lol
I only see this good for like trade shows or going to customers place of business. Have it make something quick to show the customer what printing is and how it can benefit them.
What are yall thoughts?
9 years, 6 months ago
I may have missed something but I honestly can't see the point.
Maybe also for schools that have mobile 3D printing labs. ie when a classroom needs to use the printer it is brought to their classroom.
But it seems like a gateway drug.
Imagine a handbag full of filament!! EEK!
Imagine a handbag full of filament!! EEK!
1. Affordable, the simple is like $300, and a lot of them are in the 200-500 range.
2. "easy to use", a lot of them get marketed as easy to use, and some have proprietary software that makes them simpler. I know the Simple Metal has a probe now, and there are a lot of smaller printers for the consumer market with bed leveling probes to make them super simple
3. Cool, Since these are more based to consumers who want something cheap and easy to use, they think its cool "oh I can print this little trinket for my daughter" or something like that, they aren't really for the maker/prosumer/industrial kind of person. They appeal to the consumer so then they can have something cool and they can say "oh I have a 3D printer". They don't care that they can only print with PLA and ABS, they don't even know what that means, they know "I plug it in and it makes stuff".
Thats how I'm viewing it at least
Once you add auto bed leveling (before every print) there's no worrying about throwing (no pun intended) your printer out of calibration anymore. Not a lot of companies have implemented that yet though, but it's not hard to add to a reprap (I hope).
Probably the main thing about the $500 machine is its small. It probably won't be about reliability or quality, a lot of these are built pretty solid and pretty reliably. My printer (SeeMeCNC Rostock MAX V2) dwarfs most anything you can get for that price by at least 4 times. If I can get a setup for "auto level" (its a bit more complex for deltas) I can be just as reliable as the Simple Metal and other smaller machines with leveling probes.
A case of form following function or just another designer accessory?
Any thoughts how much they'll be asking for this?? :-D
It's similar in functionality to a polyjet in that it's an upright resin printer.
A client of mine (prior to joining MakeXYZ) reinforcing a PLA print using Bondo: http://gcreate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=273&sid=109d9a0e2f3cef4ed193247b390f4630
That thing is solid now!
Cheaper materials-ABS and PLA are the cheapest, but Nylon and PET and several other higher performance materials are available for just a bit more. 1kg of ABS/PLA sells for $30-40, while PET and Nylon goes for $40-50 per ~kg. Polycarbonate is more expensive, but its not that expensive, B3 sells it for $65 per kg, vs Form lab's price of $150 per liter.
Cheaper printers-This is for right now, just comparing the Form 1 to an average RepRap project printer, or even Makerbot. Form 1+ $3300, Replicator 2X $2500, Rostock MAX (what I have) $1000 kit + > $100 for an E3d hotend (print with any material), And most of the RepRap project printers can be built for under $700 and make use of all the materials available.
More Materials-ABS, PLA, HIPS, PVA, Carbon fiber PLA, Conductive ABS, Polycarbonate, PET, Nylon, Wood filled PLA, Sandstone filled PLA, a new filament from IGUS for low friction uses, Flexible filaments (there are a lot of these with a lot of different properties), etc. I've seen very few varieties of materials for the UV printers, mainly color differences, only a few actual property differences. I saw one meant for casting, can be used like PLA for lost mold casting, but thats pretty much it.
Larger built volumes-My printer has a build diameter of 280mm by 370mm tall. The other RepRap printers are breaking out of the standard 200x200x200 build sizes that the Prusa project started, into the 250-300mm range. The Form1+ is 125x125x165. Over 3x the price of my printer and it has 2578125mm^3/22782829mm^3, or about 11% of my build volume. To get something larger you would have to pay even more, the kind of stuff from 3D systems.
I got that in general UV printing is better quality (not a lot of support needed, *finer layer heights, no chance of over/under extrusion) but FDM is cheaper and has a lot more options, and to me is a lot more useful in this stage. You can't get a UV printer with comparable built size without it costing you an arm and a leg. I think they are cool, and I do want one, but I think I'd get more usefulness from my printer than a UV printer.
@nyl0cke I agree with you I think FDM's give you alot of options for printing. I recently went to a another printer shop in the area that has some large machines that cure with UV. They produce extremely well prints. They are solid, smooth, and very detailed.
However...
I personatly cant justify the price of these expesive machines for just the fine detail part. Because, I can print at a high resolution and "regular" people would be happy with that. The only use I find with the Ultra High Res. is for casting or prototyping in a project (If it really had to be that smooth).
Other than that....if I had a $150,000 I would spend it not on one awesome machine, but buy many many many FDM machines.
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